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Drache Quesnel MEM
Number of posts : 562 Age : 40 Location : Quesnel BC Registration date : 2006-04-04
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| Subject: Banning of these on all NIA games? Wed 03 Sep 2008, 1:58 pm | |
| http://6mm-mag.com/2008/09/mad-bull-airsoft-gsg-1-out-now/It's a CO2 powered STUN grenade! Goes off with a 120db blast! For comparison, 120db is about the same sound level of the average rock concert sitting front row, thunder directly overhead, or using a pneumatic chipper/riveter without hearing protection. Personally in outdoors games they might be ok unless you have one go off near your head but indoors at CQB games I think these could seriously start to hurt people. | |
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Hortons Heros Toast
Number of posts : 3838 Age : 40 Location : Intown Registration date : 2005-10-26
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Wed 03 Sep 2008, 4:19 pm | |
| I would love to hear more feedback from reviews. 120 would knock the snot of you! Honestly I would love to have one tried on my indoors but I always dig getting a little hurt. | |
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skully Quesnel MEM
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Wed 03 Sep 2008, 5:24 pm | |
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Drache Quesnel MEM
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Wed 03 Sep 2008, 5:34 pm | |
| It will be awhile before the reviews start to come out. Id pick one up for the shits and giggles factor more than in use at a game.....
But the point comes down, 99 times it goes off no one is injured, that 100th time though it goes off next to a kneeling or forbid a prone person right next to their ear and they go deaf. | |
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Drache Quesnel MEM
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Wed 03 Sep 2008, 8:27 pm | |
| The Dollarama store in Williams Lake has these small black grenades. You pull the pin and supposedly they emitted a loud screeching noise. I didn't want to try one in the store so I don't know exactly how loud they are but at only a $1 a piece.... | |
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Gryph PG MEM
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Thu 04 Sep 2008, 9:33 am | |
| Just because they say 120db doesn't mean they acualy do it. | |
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Knightwarrier PG MEM Grn
Number of posts : 1059 Age : 52 Location : PG Registration date : 2007-08-26
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Sun 07 Sep 2008, 1:51 pm | |
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Drache Quesnel MEM
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Sun 07 Sep 2008, 3:33 pm | |
| From MadMax: - Quote :
- I've had a chance to see this device at ShotShow where Simon was proudly showing it off.
It's really nicely made and the report is pretty good. It didn't seem too damaging. I've heard dryfiring paintball guns which sounded a little harsher. The GSG-01 offers a sharp pop that I wouldn't consider to be overly damaging.
I do note that the Youtube vid showing the dB measurement had the grenade pointing right at the meter microphone at a very close distance (around 5cm when it went off). 125dB is a high noise intensity, but a distance of 5cm is very close for noise measurement. In open air measurements, dB decreases by 6dB for each doubling of distance.
The standard for most equipment noise measurement is 3' (IRC...) which is about 90cm which is 18x further than a 5cm measurement. I'm not sure how the applicable it is to reduce by 6dB for doublings from closer distances like 5cm, but if it applies well, a measurement at the standard 3' distance would come out at under 96dB (18x is greater than 4 doublings of distance 2^4=16).
At 5cm with the opening pointed at your face, the GSG-1 is a bit louder than a car horn at 3' or the racket at a rock concert. At 3' the bang exerts similar sound pressure to driving down the highway with your top down on your 'stang. I have no idea about the directionality of the GSG-1. It's got one exit port so I suspect that it will have some aspherical intensity distribution.
Properly specified dB intensity ratings should be stated with the measurement range. They are selling for about $100 USD in the states, no Canadian retailers yet.... | |
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Drache Quesnel MEM
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Sat 20 Sep 2008, 3:21 pm | |
| these are now available in Canada, Price tag: $145 + Shipping Each | |
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Knightwarrier PG MEM Grn
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| Subject: Re: Banning of these on all NIA games? Sat 20 Sep 2008, 3:28 pm | |
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